Un-Menu

[richmond62]

I have a stack with a menu that I want to appear on Windows and Linux, and I want to appear on Macintosh the same way as on Windows and Linux, and NOT along the top menu bar in the MacOS GUI . . .

Does anyone know how I can prevent this happening?

I do NOT want this:
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[Klaus]

Hi Richmond,

this is a bit tricky!
Do like this:
1. Create a substack and make if look like a Windows menubar with #2
2. Copy your menu group to that stack
3. MOST important: DELETE that menu group from your mainstack or it will cause the bloody resizing of the mainstack! Never got that!?
4. Then you need to script the desired behavior in preopenstack of your mainstack:

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on preopenstack
   ## Avoid the menu in the IDE
   if the environment = "standalone application" then
      switch the platform
         case "win32"
            go stack "your substack here" as palette
            break
         case "mac"
            set the defaultmenubar to the long ID of group "your menugroup name here" of stack "your substack here"
            break
      end switch
   end if
   # other preopenstack stuff here...   
end preopenstack

Hope that helps.

Best

Klaus

[richmond62]

Hope that helps.

Not really, I'm afraid, as I want a single stack.

I tried this:
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The difference is that it does NOT have this in the stackScript:

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on preOpenStack
   set the menubar of this stack to "myMenu"
end preOpenStack

But I assume that will cause merry hell with Linux and Windows standalones.

[Klaus]

Hope that helps.

Not really, I'm afraid, as I want a single stack.

Sorry, no idea if and how this could be done.

[dunbarx]

Richmond,

I am not clear. What happens if you do NOT set "set as Stack Menubar" in the menu builder?

Craig

[richmond62]

No menu under MacOS, BUT wonder if that wouldn't screw up menus on Linux and Windows.

Oh, and I did NOT use the menu builder.

[FourthWorld]

The Menu Builder is VERY handy. Getting all the properties set right is very tedious without it.

Like Craig said, just do what the User Guide suggests, but don't check the option for the Mac global menu bar.

Warning: this will freak out users. The global menu bar is such a long established convention with Mac that those users will often express negative opinions about an app that puts its menu bar at the top of the window.

[dunbarx]

Richmond.

How have you survived without using the menu builder? As Richard said, it is one of those gadgets that really works, and it is no fun at all to build custom menus without.

Craig

[richmond62]

How have you survived without using the menu builder?

By never building a menu until today.

[Klaus]

Hi RIchmond,

I have a stack with a menu that I want to appear on Windows and Linux, and I want to appear on Macintosh the same way as on Windows and Linux, and NOT along the top menu bar in the MacOS GUI...

sorry, I misunderstood this completely!
In that case you will NEED a substack that will act as a menubar palette like on Windows and as described earlier!

And be aware that you cannot have NO menubar on a Mac. The OS will then create a rudimentary one with the
Apple Menu and a menu with the name of your app.

[FourthWorld]

I'm reading it the opposite, that he wants a menu bar across the top of the window on all three platforms.

[Klaus]

Yes, then he will need the substack acting as the MENUBAR (palette) as I dscribed earlier.

[jacque]

Set the editmenus of the stack to false. (This is the "set as stack menubar" option in the Menu Builder, which you really should be using.)
Position the group at the top of your stack. (Menu builder does this for you.)
That's all.

Your Mac users will hate the app, and if you have more than one stack you will need to put the menu on all of them. Make the group a background group so it is shared on all cards. On Mac, the menu group will look like Windows. Keyboard shortcuts may or may not work on Mac.

[FourthWorld]

Yes, then he will need the substack acting as the MENUBAR (palette) as I dscribed earlier.

I don't understand. If he wants the menu bar along the top of the window, why couldn't he just put the menu bar along the top of the window?

That's the standard way Linux and Windows work, and he seems to want that on macOS as well (though I wouldn't advise it and it's so easy to just do what Mac users expect by just setting the stack's menubar property, just a checkbox away when using the Menu Builder).

[Klaus]

Yes, then he will need the substack acting as the MENUBAR (palette) as I dscribed earlier.

I don't understand. If he wants the menu bar along the top of the window, why couldn't he just put the menu bar along the top of the window?

Hey, it's Richmond!

That's the standard way Linux and Windows work, and he seems to want that on macOS as well (though I wouldn't advise it and it's so easy to just do what Mac users expect by just setting the stack's menubar property, just a checkbox away when using the Menu Builder).

Well, see above...